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	Comments on: LA&#8217;s Frogtown, on the Cusp of Change	</title>
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		By: local		</title>
		<link>https://flungmagazine.com/2015/10/08/las-frogtown-on-the-cusp-of-change/#comment-262</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting to hear someone come to the neighborhood without any prior experience with it.  

One big miss---the water flows in Frogtown -   always.  You just don&#039;t understand the route just yet.  In many placed the predominate flow is on the Taylor Yard side and in other it ponds by Elysian Valley.  The flow is constant year in year out, in part due to treated water releases upstream and also because of springs about midway in Elysian Valley.  

The main issue most of us here were hoping to affect with the zoning changes was to keep some job productivity around.  That is where we started but we ended up with an ordinance to restrict height...not quite what I envisioned.  It&#039;s true the place with change and I hope for the good .  Personally,  I will miss the wild west if things become too controlled...it was great to feel like my plot by the river was both isolated and wide-open to a long view of the mountains and a migratory route for birds...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to hear someone come to the neighborhood without any prior experience with it.  </p>
<p>One big miss&#8212;the water flows in Frogtown &#8211;   always.  You just don&#8217;t understand the route just yet.  In many placed the predominate flow is on the Taylor Yard side and in other it ponds by Elysian Valley.  The flow is constant year in year out, in part due to treated water releases upstream and also because of springs about midway in Elysian Valley.  </p>
<p>The main issue most of us here were hoping to affect with the zoning changes was to keep some job productivity around.  That is where we started but we ended up with an ordinance to restrict height&#8230;not quite what I envisioned.  It&#8217;s true the place with change and I hope for the good .  Personally,  I will miss the wild west if things become too controlled&#8230;it was great to feel like my plot by the river was both isolated and wide-open to a long view of the mountains and a migratory route for birds&#8230;</p>
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		By: Spoke bicycle cafe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2015 17:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If your not seeing how we are different than the other cookie cutter business that operate in all other parts of the city then yes the sun has blinded your eyes from seeing. We are not and will not be a carbon copy of every other place in Los Angeles. We are doing something that no one has cared about for years and years. Serving the cycling community. Giving them a refuge to ride to and gather. Maybe also encouraging others to get out of their cars and get on a bike and ride because there is a place to ride a bike to where there isn&#039;t traffic, and you can be safe riding to without worrying about being hit by people angry at you riding on their road. I think you are missing the point of spoke and you reinforced that by showing up in a car. I&#039;m sorry you missed the point and want to throw the gentrification word around. When we conceived this idea and secured the property we had no idea of any plans for Frogtown or the river at all. That all came after the fact. All see saw was a 10 mile uninterrupted place that people could ride a bike and have no where to go along it. We wanted to provide a cool place to do so that was as equally serene and car free as the Bike park and river itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your not seeing how we are different than the other cookie cutter business that operate in all other parts of the city then yes the sun has blinded your eyes from seeing. We are not and will not be a carbon copy of every other place in Los Angeles. We are doing something that no one has cared about for years and years. Serving the cycling community. Giving them a refuge to ride to and gather. Maybe also encouraging others to get out of their cars and get on a bike and ride because there is a place to ride a bike to where there isn&#8217;t traffic, and you can be safe riding to without worrying about being hit by people angry at you riding on their road. I think you are missing the point of spoke and you reinforced that by showing up in a car. I&#8217;m sorry you missed the point and want to throw the gentrification word around. When we conceived this idea and secured the property we had no idea of any plans for Frogtown or the river at all. That all came after the fact. All see saw was a 10 mile uninterrupted place that people could ride a bike and have no where to go along it. We wanted to provide a cool place to do so that was as equally serene and car free as the Bike park and river itself.</p>
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